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New Chinese Food Restaurant Opening in Woodbury

The Zoning Commission lent its support to the new business venture.

 

A Chinese food restaurant is set to open at the former location of Heavenly Gifts in Woodbury.

The Woodbury Zoning Commission, at its Jan. 8 meeting at the Senior Community Center, lent its support to the new business and asked the land use office to issue a change of use permit for the Chinese food restaurant.

Chairman Martin Overton noted the following details on the new business:

  • Open 11 a.m. to 10 p.m. daily, seven days a week
  • Closed on Thanksgiving
  • Three tables present, mainly a take-out restaurant

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F.M. Longo January 10, 2013 at 03:43 PM
This is about the 4th restaurant rumored to be opening in that place in the past year. Are any of them actually going to open?
Jaimie Cura (Editor) January 10, 2013 at 04:00 PM
Do a positivity dance to the Successful Business powers-that-be and hope for the best, I suppose!
Lynda Jackson January 11, 2013 at 01:33 AM
So it would be really nice to get a Dunkin Donuts. Who agree's with me. :)
Voice of Reason January 11, 2013 at 03:13 PM
I'll pass, last couple times I had DD I could taste it all day. In Woodbury, Dottie's and in Southbury, "The Bakery". Mmmm...... Just typing the names and I'm salivating.
Kristin Ingersoll January 11, 2013 at 03:49 PM
I agree with Voice of Reason - when it comes to their baked goods. But I would love to have a DD local just for the coffee.
JohnGalt January 11, 2013 at 04:42 PM
here we go again......can Overton read anything correctly???? lets ask 1) IS THIS IN MIDDLE QUARTER? 2) 5.2.3 PROHIBITED USES IN MIDDLE QUATER SUB SECTION 5.2.3.1: "IN ADDITION TO THE PROHIBITED USES SET FORTH IN SECTION 3.2....THE FOLLOWING USES ARE EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED FROM THE ENTIRE MQ DISTRICT:5.2.3.1C FAST FOOD, PREDOMINANTLY TAKE - OUT RESTAURANTS" . IS THIS TRUE?? The correct answer to both questions is: yes, this property is in mq and fast food is not allowed in the mq district...But then we are dealing with Mr. Overton. It appears again folks, that Mr. Overton has abused his authority again. So fast food is now allowed in mq district?? Well, now let's welcome dunkin donuts, starbucks, wendys, and the golden arch's of mc donalds to our town. By allowing the taco truck and now this chinese fast food restaurant, Woodbury cannt stop dd, starbucks or the golden arch's...on grounds that they are fast food?...wrong. BY allowing mr. taco and this new fast food restaurant you have set a LEGAL precedent of allowing fast food in mq district. Turn down dd, and the court will turn us down for being bias against dd How long are the citizens of woodbury going to put up with Mr. Overton's abuse of authority and clearly his inability to read and properly interpret town charters and town zoning rules?? ENOUGH!
Kristin Ingersoll January 11, 2013 at 05:06 PM
JohnGalt - how is the Chinese resturant a fast food place? Yes, most of the time you wait the default "15 minutes" when you place an order no matter how big. Most of the time, Chinese take out places do have seating (the ambience stinks, but you can eat there). Same thing with the taco truck, how is that fast food? Or the seafood truck? I am not sticking up for Overton, as I think any new business that draws the locals and other people to town is a good economic thing. We do need zoning rules though to keep things looking decent. Just look at Southbury Subway, Soutbury DD...
JohnGalt January 11, 2013 at 06:03 PM
umh, kristin???? 1) Last line of the article, per Mr. Overton, three tables present, mainly a take-out restaurant 2)Fast Food: a commercial enterpirse whose principal business is the sale of pre prepared or rapidly prepared food sold directly to the customer in a ready to consume state packaged in disposable containers or wrapingswith tow or more of the following features: meanu boars, central ordering area, microphone or headsets, unavailabliy of beer wine or alcholohic beverages, visiable cooking facilities or unavailability of table service" Woodbury zoning definition of fast food, page a-7. therefore the seafood truck is not fast food...its food is not ready to eat...you need to take it home and cook it. the taco truck, meals on wheels, see above definition. Also include the chinese resturant. If the citizens of woodbury want dd, mcdonalds, subways in a non fast food zone, change the regs. Untill then Mr. Overton's elected position is to enforsce without bias or personal interpretation or desire the rules he was elected to enforse. Per Mr Overtons own comments...this chinese resturant is fast food...therefore it should have been decline. The resturant owners could go to zoning board of appeals to challenge the decline. Mr. Overton is in the wrong.
JohnGalt January 11, 2013 at 06:07 PM
my appology's for typing errors in the zoning definition, line three, two not tow and boards, not boars
Kristin Ingersoll January 11, 2013 at 06:17 PM
Thanks, John. With your typos, still understood what you meant. I just never expected that you would get snippy with my asking questions. I find it frustrating that there are many that want to do business in town, but are always turned down, and, up until recently (when Patch started covering the meetings), there were a lot of us that never knew why.
Jaimie Cura (Editor) January 11, 2013 at 06:18 PM
I posted Lynda's question on the Facebook page - evenly divided between the folks who want to see a Dunkin' Donuts in Woodbury and those who don't! https://www.facebook.com/WoodMiddPatch
JohnGalt January 11, 2013 at 06:38 PM
Kristin, lol, just tired. Sorry if came over snippy at you, that was not my intent. I'm just tired of Mr. Overton's actions. This is a non-paying elected posisiton. He's a zoning commisioner who was appointed by the zoning board to be the chairman. His elected position as zoning officer is enforse the zoning rules as written. They are not subject to his interpretation or desires. As chairman, he is still bound by those rules. The zoning commision is allowed to make minor changes to rules as long as they don't adversly alter or change the rules without a town referendum. But all major changes are subject to a town referendum. If Mr. Overton has an issue where he cannt enforce the zoning rules he took an oath to uphold, he should either withdraw under a conflict of interest or resign from the board.
Kristin Ingersoll January 11, 2013 at 07:00 PM
Thank you JohnGalt. I really appreciate it.
Kellyanne Koemp January 11, 2013 at 11:01 PM
Hope they offer delivery too, like Big Daddy's. That would be helpful. :) Now we need an Indian and Middle Eastern place. I will be very happy!
Sean M January 11, 2013 at 11:51 PM
Kristin, you have to read the regulations and the definitions of fast food. What matters is what the regulations defines as fast food. http://woodburyct.org/WoodburyZoningRegs_2010FINAL%20May%201.pdf page 139
Sean M January 11, 2013 at 11:53 PM
Kristin Overton has run the Zoning Commission like a dictatorship for years. I ask questions and pay attention. Now you know why he is insistent on silencing me.
Mathew Hough January 14, 2013 at 02:46 PM
1. It seems to me that regulations need to be tweaked. There is decidedly a difference between a quick service restaurant and food truck compared to fast food. I just don't understand why people would want to fight small businesses coming into town and contributing to the tax base when there are so many empty shopping centers in town. I'm sorry but a taco truck and takeout Chinese place does not create a gateway to evil.
JohnGalt January 14, 2013 at 03:44 PM
Mathew Hough If the town regulations need to be tweaked, It needs to be done by town referendum. Until that time, the rules for middle quater can not be clearer: 5.2.3 PROHIBITED USES IN MIDDLE QUATER SUB SECTION 5.2.3.1: "IN ADDITION TO THE PROHIBITED USES SET FORTH IN SECTION 3.2....THE FOLLOWING USES ARE EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED FROM THE ENTIRE MQ DISTRICT:5.2.3.1C FAST FOOD, PREDOMINANTLY TAKE - OUT RESTAURANTS" . There is no diffrerence between a fast food resturant, or as you term "quick service" a food truck and McDonalds. If you had read my prior post on the town of Woodbury definition of fast food, we are opening a gateway to dd, starbucks and burger king. What you need to understand is that the zoning board has to enforce the zoning rules with out personal bias, interperation, or desire. As of today, any business that falls under the woodbury zoning definition of fast food must be denied. The zoning boards failure to do the duty they worn an oath to uphold, has now created a LEGAL PRECEDENCE. Sure they can turn down a future dd business from coming to town at a zoning meeting, but the courts would rule that they were being bias
Jaimie Cura (Editor) January 14, 2013 at 04:02 PM
Just popping in quickly to say thank you to all the readers who have weighed in and commented on the article. Also, a comment was removed from this thread due to a term of use violation. From the terms of use: "This means that whether you are being complimentary or critical, whether you are agreeing or disagreeing with the subject of an article or another user’s comment, you should act in a civil manner and refrain from personal attacks – after all, these are your neighbors." http://woodbury-middlebury.patch.com/terms
Newcomer January 14, 2013 at 06:41 PM
Wow, I cannot tell you how pretentious these comments have been. The taco truck is the most innovative thing to happen to this community in a decade.
Sean M January 14, 2013 at 07:33 PM
Matthew If you read the lengthy regulations, there is a lot of you can do X here mentality. There are a number of people in town who think they have the right to dictate who does what, where, and when.
Sean M January 14, 2013 at 07:35 PM
When you say not consistently enforce regulations, do you mean like waiting 15 months to deal with enforcement on Tom Arras's Overturn Overton sign?
Voice of Reason January 14, 2013 at 11:08 PM
Well I've read through this thread and have come to one conclusion. I want Chinese for dinner, off to Cheng Square I go. :-)
JohnGalt January 15, 2013 at 02:10 AM
Since most of this educated discussion, on either side, has been exercised with a pleasant civility, might I suggest you do the same? Attempting to expound your opinion with words you lack the propper knowledge of and use, make you comments moot. As for the taco truck being the most innovative thing to happen to Woodbury in a decade, Jester, might I suggest a trip to the library. There, you can read up on the last ten years of Woodbury history...before you state...the taco truck the the most innovative "thing" to happen to Woodbury in the last ten years.
Mathew Hough January 15, 2013 at 02:33 PM
JohnGalt you obviously have nothing better to do than troll these comments. I fully understand the regulations and your comments and I didn't debate what you said. I said maybe its time to bring the regulations in line with the 21st century. When these guidelines were written many of the newer style food service options didn't exist. My bigger point is that no one wants to pay more taxes and every one wants to keep the town pristine yet you have 3 major building spaces completely vacant within a quarter mile. And johnGalt I am very well read and do have some legal training although I am not a lawyer. McDonald's would be hard pressed to use the taco truck as a precedent. Couldn't they have used Corey's and now bilda burger or the several delis in town as past precedent using your interpretation of the regulations.
JohnGalt January 15, 2013 at 10:49 PM
Mathew, Home sick with the flu thursday to monday, so yes I was trolling for a civil but lively debate (as an avid fisherman, I liked the trolling coment) and was on-line more than usual. I understand and repect you position. I believe 1)] Coreys was a grandfathered, pre zoning regulation, business and coreys resturant area was a seasonal with limited hours of operation. This is why dd was turned down by the zoning board.2) the taco truck an chinese resturant are operating within the mq district thus bound by the mq zoning rules 3) you bring up a valid point, is binda burger fast food or a sitdown dinner/resturant. i dont know. But we now have,confirmed, two fast food entities in mq district....maybe its time to rewrite the rules..since no one was listening or enforcing the old ones. Thus ends my debate on this issue.
Jaimie Cura (Editor) February 28, 2013 at 03:10 AM
There's a new update on this location - I'll be posting the article for tomorrow morning and will post the link here.
Jaimie Cura (Editor) February 28, 2013 at 02:30 PM
And here it is! Italian restaurant may open in Woodbury: http://patch.com/A-2tG4

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